Welcome to the final preview for the Vargath Vanguard! You've seen the commons and the Summoner, now see the final event and the last two champions. Thanks to Frank for providing his comments for these previews the last three weeks. Frank, the designer of the Vargath Vanguards and Summoner Wars' lead playtester, has comments in italics below.

Lightning Strike

Frank: In my head, I saw this holy dude with a sword thrust into the air, have it struck by lightning, then point it at something and just smite whatever it was with a bolt from his sword.  The art turned that into a holy woman thrusting a spear, but the effect is the same :).  I know everyone's take on Greater Burn, but I think the summoner proximity requirement along with the ability to blow up a wall (something the Vargath have done well, especially Growden) make it unique and fun.

There is only one copy of this event in the deck, and this is certainly pure Vargath, thematically. And there is more where that came from, as Korbolen represents the ability to deal three wounds with devestating regularity.

Korbolden

Frank: Went through a lot of iterations on this guy, but in the end I settled on something of a Storm Mage champion that I really liked.  I knew I wanted a Vargath unit in here that used lightning, and I like the flexibility of hanging back and sniping, maybe being healed by Sera in the process, or running in to Electrocute a champ or summoner.

I like to imagine the guy has a novelty hand buzzer. :P Finally, we come to our final champ, who is one of the coolest champions among two factions who have a ton of cool champions. Meet Qayla.

Qayla

Frank: This is the only card that never changed from what I originally designed at all, but she's a true Vargath general.  She really gets across the point of commanding the troops and setting up solid formations, and when she's on the table that's much easier to do.  She's an immediate threat when she hits the board, and gives both factions some movement manipulation that I think they sorely needed.

I love cards that just trigger my brain to start imagining all the advanced potential uses. Qayla is pretty slick.

Only two factions left! I promise we'll have the pre-order up as soon as humanly possible. Until then, we've given you endless previews to drool over. Come back next week for the Swamp Mercenaries and and the Tundra Guild, two factions we're VERY excited about showcasing.

Cave Filth: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Deep Benders: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Fallen Phoenix: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Jungle Shadow: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Sand Cloaks: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
Vargath Vanguards: Part 1, Part 2


Comments


Nburghardt commented:

Qayla I'm very excited about. Korbolden I know I'll roll 80% 1-2s with. lol

Posted on 2014-10-09.

blackholexan commented:

Woooooooooooooooooooooot!!!

Posted on 2014-10-09.

freezinpee commented:

Loving the healer goats. I love the vargath vanguard. Hurray for zapping

Posted on 2014-10-09.

jwalker commented:

ok now I know why not more Goats did make it in the Artwork selection! Normally my part here is "omg great artwork" but VV was a total fail except Moyra and the Crusader to me (Artwork wise I find the mechanic great).
While both champs seems to be interesting, I do not really see how one of them is a staple (as promised) to original Sundaved. Quayla could be 6 cost (like Growden) and Korbolden is freaking expensive. Korbolden needs some testing, 3 ranged damage is ofc devestating and you only pay once you know it hits.

oh wow just realized how strong Quayla is outside of MV. Sam will love him and also Moyra obviously!

Posted on 2014-10-09.

tortugatron commented:

How broken would Korby be if you could electrocute at range? I have a feeling that he would suck pretty hard against common heavy play. Guess I'll just have to find out.

I love Qayla though btw. Every Summoner will as promised.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

blackholexan commented:

Is Korbolden a male Vargath?

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Nburghardt commented:

Honor Guards will be good with Qayla, I bet.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Khayzhard commented:


" Frank: In my head, I saw this holy dude with a sword thrust into the air, have it struck by lightning ... "

... and, then, the dude yells: "By the power of Greyskull !! I have the poweeeeeer !!! " ;P


Very very well done, KC.
Awesome faction, the VV. It is my favored in absolute terms in all SW

Just a funny note: I love the name Korbolden. I'm repeating it for 5 minutes in a row !!! :D


Posted on 2014-10-09.

glenn3e commented:

Love the Art of Qayla. Especially since its distinct and female too.

Both the Vargath Champs look good. I might try Qayla in Sundy to help him out with positioning. But Korbolden has the ability to screw yourself when he misses. Still, interesting Champ with a unique statline.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

jods commented:

No sparks in the illustration of Korbolden? :(

So as I understand it Korbolden triggers for each wound? So if I manage to give it +1 AV and do 2 hits, then I can discard 2 cards to inflict 6 wounds in one shot, right?

Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

The last time I saw art for Korbolden, he had electric fists. I'd be sad if that didn't make it


Posted on 2014-10-09.

RMZ1989 commented:

@Jods
I don't think so. It doesn't say "for each wound" or "for each card discarded this way". To me it looks like "do it once per attack if you inflict 1 or more wounds" even though it doesn't specifically say it that way.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

That's probably how I'd rule it (like RMZ), but it isn't possible anyway.

And I think players are going to find Qayla strong everywhere. She's a beast.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

joepinion commented:

kc: I just e-mailed Dave, these images are from when the previews started, so some could be out of date. I'll update if he gets me a new one.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

glenn3e commented:

How would you inflict two Wounds:?

Posted on 2014-10-09.

tortugatron commented:

@ glenn3e

Currently you can't, but maybe Soverved will allow some +AV to Champs in the future?

Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

I don't think I anticipate anything in MV 2 to boost a champs attack, but even if it did, whether or not he inflicts a wound is a yes or no question in my mind. If he inflicts a wound or 100, I think he discards once.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

RMZ1989 commented:

Lighting Strike is very solid card, can kill commons or wounded champs for free and can help to get rid of the walls if you are playing against turtling faction. Cool.

Korbolden is okaish, I would rather put him at like 7 or 8 magic cost and allow his ability to trigger even on range. If that is proven to be too powerful, we could nerf it in some other way.

Qayla is great. I like her artwork, her stats and abilities. Pretty much everything. I can see some really cool combination with her and Cavalry/Cherub/Warrior Angel/Honor guard/Storm Mages/Brutes etc. I think that she will see a plenty of play time.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Fataliomega commented:

I'm with everyone on this. Qayla is my favorite unit in this deck by FAR, and am looking forward to using her both in Moyra's deck, but also in Sunderved and Sam. I think VV is going to be my favorite deck to customize with. Excited!

Random question KC... how do you pronounce "Qayla?" [K-LA]?



Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

Yeah - I envision it pronounces the same as Kayla. Quen inspired me to use a Q somehow.

I like that she's a fierce female Warrior with a bit of savagery, like Ayla in Chrono Trigger. But that comparison didn't occur to me until after I named her, which is weird. Maybe I was subconsciously thinking of Ayla.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

CupidsArt commented:

Yeah, sadly the Electro-Fists were given the axe.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

blackholexan commented:

@CupidsArt...Whyyyyyyyyyyy? Someone was afraid of epilepsy :P?

I didn't get why Defenders are not Vargath, I don't understand why no Electrofists :(((

Posted on 2014-10-09.

CupidsArt commented:

I started drawing these guys way before powers or names were really ever made. I ultimately don't get to choose what goes into the decks though. I just draw and hope for a yes. I don't remember why the electro-fists were a no, it was way too long ago.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

blackholexan commented:

@CupidsArt: thanks for the nice answer (don't get me wrong: I love the overall job done on this set, I was just curious about the art selection process)

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Irisches Glueck commented:

Qayla is the perfect champ for Sunderved! It lets me cut down on rushers while keeping the front line strong. IMO, she works best with Warriors, Brutes, and Storm Mages... Especially the Storm Mage =]

Posted on 2014-10-09.

jwalker commented:

@Irisches I think she might support a Warden/Warrior deck with some few Mages - but golden horns ... really?


Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

The original art didn't have electro fists. I asked if we could do it and if we could change Moyra's art up a bit. Moyra was a no, but electro fists were a yes I thought. Cupid drew it and it was sweet, but maybe just didn't make the final card I guess.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Araphor commented:

This was the only faction that you didn't show the card backs. Please show us ... :D

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Justantula commented:

Discarding a card to add 2 wounds? Not worth it.
And built in MUSTER for Qayla isn't bad but as someone said before, 7 cost isn't working.

And Qayla doesn't look like a goat... Or anything in particular.


Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

Qayla is easily worth 7 Magic. I have zero qualms openly declaring that. I'll take her over Rygos or Grubs any day of the week.

And you're gonna tell me trading 1 card for 2 wounds isn't worth it? That's cray cray.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Fataliomega commented:

Yeah, but he does have a good point... Korby could just as easily been a 3av melee. Why would paying a card for two wounds which still rely on that one av hitting be a fantastic deal?

Put different, why would I run Korby over Growden? Certainly not the 1av range option...

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Justantula commented:

I wouldn't mind discarding a card for 2 wounds if the card was better. Cost 6, 1 AV, has to be adjacent, can't be boosted and he serves no purpose end game. Just how I see it.

And about Qayla, I guess I'm used to MV Champion prices, not VG. And I was hoping the MV would get some real help from VV but the Second Summoner will suffice I suppose.

And also KC, good work in general with the VV, I just have problems with the artwork basically. But you can't please 'em all ;)

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Araphor commented:

Alliance project was very awesome and all faction are very intersting. VV is an exception. I recognize that the mechanics created by Frank is very cool and works very well with Sera, Samuel or Sundeved. But the art itself disappoints a bit. And it is an isolated exception because all other factions are really cool. VV does not seem to me nor Vanguard and much less Vangarth. The goat portion of the deck is very odd.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

sitnam90 commented:

@Fataliomega: Because 1 dice to get three wounds is a 66% chance. Needing 3 dice to get three wounds is only like a 30% chance. Thats one of the most reliable ways to get 3 wounds off of dice rolls.

@Justantula: I'm not sure what you mean about VG and MV champ prices. MV have a very popular seven cost champ themselves.


Posted on 2014-10-09.

Recna commented:

I'm surprised Korbolden has no lightning in his art. He just looks like a common unit. If anything Korbolden and the Defender should switch art. You could even rename the ability Kor's Hammer. =P

Qayla is a sweet champion. I just find her art a little wierd. She looks like a werewolf from that angle.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Khayzhard commented:

It is not my case, but I can understand why some people don't like the "discarding condition" to inflict 2 extra damage to an adjacent Unit (I have a similar sentiment towards Wrath of the Volcano, Queen Maldaria's Event).

Keeping a Common in Hand to discard subsequently, maybe might lead to "Hand clogging" issues, for example (I don't think anyone would ever discard a Champ or an Event to trigger Electrocute, unless this is necessary to win, obv.).

If I could make a change, but just as a try, and not because I think that it is necessary (I like the VV as they are, honestly), I think that I would try Electrocute as affecting Units within 3 clear straight line spaces of Korbolden (he is a ranged Unit, afterall).

However, I guess that this idea has been tested during playtesting, so, because Korbolden cannot do this thing, I conclude that this change would be too broken.


Posted on 2014-10-09.

killercactus commented:

I looked at Korbolden like a PE champ with Spirit of the Phoenix. When you pay that 1 SotP card, you're guaranteed the 3 damage. Korbolden does have the drawback when he misses, but you don't spend the card in that situation either.

I just kinda said when he hits, he turns any card into your hand into a SotP.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

glenn3e commented:

Qayla has a free mini-Muster every turn. That's definitely worth something since Sundy has to pay for it. I think she works more in Sam than Sundy, since Sam really needs those Musters to help him push forward.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Justantula commented:

@sitnam90 But MV only have one 7 coster and I don't think she is worth the price myself. Bellor, Growden and Torodin are great for 6 magic so I prefer them.



Posted on 2014-10-09.

prometheuslkr commented:

So who exactly is in charge of art choice? Because if the artist, designer, and the fans all say they'd prefer electric fists for Korbolden and yet they chose otherwise it seems like something's wrong there.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

glenn3e commented:

I can definitely Korbolden and Defender's exchanging Art. Lol!

Posted on 2014-10-09.

jods commented:

It's disapointing that the electric fists got the axe. I find the illustration a very generic Goat, nothing that says 'Electrocute' to me. It's even sadder given that the MV had plenty of lightning in their pictures.

All the illustrations I love the most have a strong link to the mechanic of the card... I'm surprised that cupidsart did some of those before even knowing what the capacity was going to be :(

Regarding the rules, it's true that I can't find any way to boost a VV champion. So it doesn't really matter at the moment, although we have yet to see the MV and Mercs second summoners. It's the "When [...] and inflicts a wound" that suggests (to me) that with two wounds it triggers twice. "inflicts at least one wound" may have been clearer but as was said, it may never matter at all!

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Iliad_Keys commented:

Anyone else think that Korbolden's lower half looks a little funny? it looks kinda like a ballet goat in a skirt. with golden hooves to boot! Think I'll call him Twinkle Toes

Posted on 2014-10-09.

RMZ1989 commented:

@IK
His whole pose to me is like "B*tch please, I am fabulous" lol.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

BuckWilde commented:

Where's the card back? I can't even imagine what it looks like. I have a terrible imagination.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Da-Niel, Unicorn Bro commented:

Korbolden may be missing the fabled lightning hands but he does still have the looks of a boxing goat god!

Posted on 2014-10-09.

WOOKIE commented:

Art wise I like them. All current MV look
alike so I welcome these new Interpritations.
Qayla has an awesome machanic.


Posted on 2014-10-09.

Zaid commented:

Korb is a great champion and well-balanced, I actually think he might even be a bit powerful. Those who keep trying to tweak him aren't really paying attention to just how effective three hits out of one dice roll can be.

Qayla is a must play in any deck. Well-done KC.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Fataliomega commented:

@Zaid - possibly. I guess I just dislike leaning so heavily on a single die roll. I'd rather split the difference and roll three dice, knowing that the chance of at least one wound getting through is high.

But I'll give him a whirl. On paper his ability seems over costed to me, but maybe he will impress me in practice.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

Cuffs Alister commented:

This is the alliance I'm most looking forward to! Korbolden and lightning strike are both awesome, and Qayla looks pretty awesome as well. The remind me a lot of Maldaria my favorite summoner, with the move a common unit adjacent, burn like ability, and an ability that can reliably get 3 wounds on an enemy. I can't wait, especially with some priests and guardian knights added in.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

ZeeJr commented:

Have to agree that Korbolden seems overcosted on paper.
He's got three restrictions on his ability: adjacency, wound inflict, and discarding. If one of the three were dropped, he would feel balanced. I would prefer the wound inflict as the requirement to drop, since the best thing about Storm Mages is their lack of randomness.

Then again, I thought Storm Mages were underpowered, back when I first read them. Now my whole Sundy deck practically revolves around them.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

prometheuslkr commented:

I think he'll be basically like a TO Shaman which deals 3 damage--powerful for his cost when actually attacking targets with 3+ life, but when it comes to lower life targets, not that great.

Posted on 2014-10-09.

jwalker commented:

Well using his abilityo only once you have a 7 cost unit with an average damage of 2. Add now that paying one handcard ist most often worse than paying 1 magic (especially lategame and endgame) and his inferior stats without the boost makes him bad vs. 2 life commons. So either you pay a lot for him to make him work or he will just underperform. When determining the summon cost of a unit often you can see an added cost of 0,5x the AV for ranged units (that's why 3 or 4 AV units are so expensive). So he's worth 4,5(7,5-3 champ discount) magic meaning his ablity that even costs one card (magic) per use has an in build cost of 1,5. I'd rather have Malaena with 6 life for 6 honestly, auto hit, better average damage, attacks for free :P

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

If you use his ability once, you have a 7 cost unit with an average damage of 3. How can it be less than that when he attacked once for 3 wounds? Because if you used his ability, he's already hit something.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

ZeeJr commented:

Also, keep in mind that "inflicting a wound" is significantly more strict than simply "hitting". Very slim chance to electrocute units with defensive abilities or events.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

Except Baldar. That idiot hates Electrocute.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

jwalker commented:

Everyone who makes Baldar sad has my support ;)
Don't get me wrong guys - Korbolden will surely work and he isn't a design fail or something. I just think he will be some of these second line champions that you can use and do fine with but for pure effectiveness (perfect tournament decks) he will not be good enough. Like Blaggog, Dagger or Splub. All fine champs but not top of the top. Looking at Helkar I would have liked him to be 1/8r so you have enough time to really use his ability a lot and get the most out of his ability or just use his toughness without the boost.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

glenn3e commented:

For Baldar, I use Luka but the Vanguards could use some help against him.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

thenobleknave commented:

Man, I like Splub ;)

Korby isn't my fav champ but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. His ability basically says "If Korbolden wounds an adjacent Unit, you may immediately play any card from hand as if it were Greater Burn."

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

Except that you can only hit that unit with it.

Like I said, I kinds wish he had 7 life, but I also think the MV second summoner will like him. I have the benefit of foresight into some of the future decks so I tried to use it in some spots.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

tortugatron commented:

Please PLEASE name the MV SS Soverved for me.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

He already has a name - not Soverved :(

Posted on 2014-10-10.

Zwierzakov commented:

You ruined Electrocute. No synergy with other cards in decks. Wound up to two on him would be better. He would be a waste. How could unit with 1 DA RNG and 6 Health cost 6 MANA ! Guys, there are plenty of good Rng 2 DA champs for 4 or 5.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

No synergy with cards in decks that exist. Chill out bro and try him before you hate on it.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

ZeeJr commented:

All the champs with 6 life cost 6 mana except for Cave Goblin champs. So he's good in that regard.

On the other hand, ranged champs typically have 2 AV.

It's probably fair to say that he'll get about one ranged attack and three adjacent attacks in his average lifespan. (Actually, I was thinking more like two-and-two, but this way is easier to analyze). One of the adjacent attacks should fail. The other two, he can discard a card each. So his cost is 8 (plus himself) at that point. I agree that hand cards are generally more valuable than magic pile cards, so maybe we should find up to 9, or at least 8.5.

So he's dealt about 7 damage. Seems like Growden typically deals about the same, but he also gets his wall wounds. I think Jacob Eldwyn usually deals about that same amount in a game where I don't heal him. With healing, I can often double that.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

killercactus commented:

I tend to think cards in hand are the same value as in magic if you're going to build them anyway. I mean, is it really worse to discard Possessed Wall than Freeze? Korbolden can ELECTROCUTE with 0 magic - Quen can't do that, for instance.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

ZeeJr commented:

True. Using hand cards is better if you're left with zero because of magic drain or something. But the biggest difference between hand and magic pile is that half of the stuff in your magic pile is opponents you've destroyed. You can't use them for anything else. Unless you're Tundle.

Posted on 2014-10-10.

shawnrau commented:

would it have been to much ask to get someone else to do the art on the actual Vargath champions?

Posted on 2014-10-15.

BuckWilde commented:

@shawnrau The beauty is that Cupidsart did ALL of the art in the set, so it wouldn't make sense to get another artist to do two units.Plus, I think Korbolden is pretty sweet.

Posted on 2014-10-15.

shawnrau commented:

@BuckWilde, Cupidsart is very talented and i really enjoy a great number of pieces i've seen and look forward to seeing more Cupidsart work, but the fact remains that the art for the Vargath champions are lackluster when compared to the previous Vargath cards or even when compared to the other cards in the VV team.

Posted on 2014-10-15.

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