Thanks to all who participated in the first official Summoner Wars iOS tournament. AcidVeins23 managed to come out on top, going 4-1 in the final round, including a victory over DoctorPenick, who came in second and also went 4-1. Congratulations, AcidVeins, on notching 11 wins during the tournament, winning the championship and earning the $50 credit to the PlaidHatGames.com store! Thanks to Colby for generously providing the prize and to Playdek for putting the Everything Bundle on sale during registration.

Although the Phoenix Elves, Tundra Orcs or Guild Dwarves were chosen by both competitors for most matches in the final round, AcidVeins defeated DoctorPenick by using the Cloaks. DoctorPenick had used the Phoenix Elves for every match during the first two rounds and had a ton of success. He guessed that his third round competitors would try to counterpick against the Phoenix Elves and so he picked the Guild Dwarves against AcidVeins. He was right; AcidVeins picked the Cloaks against DoctorPenick, since the Cloaks benefit from the Phoenix Elves' low unit count and Elien's low life. However, maybe he out thought himself, as his Phoenix Elves had been extremely tough to beat throughout the tournament no matter who they faced. Nonetheless, it was great to see a less-loved faction win the tournament for AcidVeins.

I was stunned by how well this tournament went. 195 matches and we had no deadbeats, no cheaters, no complainers, and essentially no problems. That means we had 54 classy, diligent compeititors. Thank you all again. Click here to view the full results, standings and stats.

Next week we'll post in more detail about AcidVeins' matches; he's writing up details.

What's Next?

I thought the structure of the tournament was perfect (i.e. 6-person pools, 3-day matches, top two from each pool move on). We'll likely stick with that structure in the future. I thought up that structure because it makes use of the iOS strength (multiple games at once) while mitigating its weakness (games can potentially take a long time to resolve). In the end it provided us with 195 matches in less than a month, staying ahead of schedule the entire time.

Perhaps next time we can bump it up to 162 competitors (one additional round), and a few more prizes. I'll have to recruit some tournament co-organizers in that case to help me keep track of matches.

I'll definitely pre-announce the tournament two or three days before registration opens next time, so that those who really want to participate can ensure that they're at their computer to sign up the moment registration opens.

We got lucky to have no unbreakable ties, especially in round one, so I think next time the final tiebreaker (after head-to-head and strengh of victory) will have to do with using the less-used factions or something like that.

Finally, we might go with a different tournament format. I went with "choose any faction and build you want every single round" this time because it was simple (nothing at all to administrate) and because I was curious about how it would play out. Next time, perhaps we can do the iOS equivalent of Five for Fighting, which would be that each round, you must use five different factions in your pool.

Please comment below on your thoughts and ideas for the next iOS tournament.


Comments


killercactus commented:

Thanks again, joe, for running this tournament so well!

I'd love to see a 54F version of an iOS tournament eventually - maybe once some more factions are available on the iOS. Would be really cool.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

Acidveins23 commented:

Thanks for all the time, and work you put into this joe.

A 54F tournament would be an improvement in my opinion, but not necessary. One thing I would like to see is a final championship match. For example: two finalist pools, and the winer of each goes to one final game where winner takes all. It's just a little more exciting for spectators and players alike. I don't know if that would make the whole thing harder to run, it's just a suggestion.



Posted on 2012-10-25.

Adam commented:

Thanks for running this! I have hosted play by forum games of Dune and know that herding people online is not always easy. I'd really like the five factions per round structure.

And congratulations to our champion. Glad to see Cloaks on top. Well done! Looking forward to your recap.

Edit: I didn't realize there wasn't a championship! I agree that it would make for a more exciting finish, if nothing else.



Posted on 2012-10-25.

Acidveins23 commented:

Thanks for all the time, and work you put into this joe.

A 54F tournament would be an improvement in my opinion, but not necessary. One thing I would like to see is a final championship match. For example: two finalist pools, and the winer of each goes to one final game where winner takes all. It's just a little more exciting for spectators and players alike. I don't know if that would make the whole thing harder to run, it's just a suggestion.



Posted on 2012-10-25.

joepinion commented:

Hmmm the championship match is not a bad idea. Maybe rather than 162 competitors we could just double it and do 108.... Two conferences which each run a tournament with the structure of this one, then the two champs fight each other in a best of three.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

Acidveins23 commented:

Thanks for all the time, and work you put into this joe.

A 54F tournament would be an improvement in my opinion, but not necessary. One thing I would like to see is a final championship match. For example: two finalist pools, and the winer of each goes to one final game where winner takes all. It's just a little more exciting for spectators and players alike. I don't know if that would make the whole thing harder to run, it's just a suggestion.



Posted on 2012-10-25.

rudyvalentine commented:

Thank you Joe and congratulations Acidveins on the big win!!! I really like the idea of doubling the competitors to 108 with two ladders to a championship. That sounds more manageable as well. They could each have their own thread and tourney director and then the winners of each side play each other in either one head to head game or a best of series.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

Acidveins23 commented:

I like that idea, Joe. If we ever get a replay function, this could be the next big spectator sport!

Edit: sorry about the repetitious post, I'm not sure why my phone did that.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

tortugatron commented:

I think the pools of 6 with top 2 going on to the next round is a great idea. Keep that for sure. But a championship round would be a great addition and something I would love to see be the norm from now on.

54F would be great to stop PE dominance, but I would hold off on that until we at least get another 4 factions. I think if we could have a PHG sponsored tournament 4 times a year, you could alternate which are standard and which are 54F. You could also easily refer to past tournaments by their season and year in this format.

54-Great small scale tournament to start things off but that should increase

108-I think this should be the next step to gauge interest without going too grandiose too soon.

216-In my opinion, having a final 4 would be a good step, especially if you expand from 108 but don't quite get to 324.

324-This is probably the largest I would go if I were you guys. You get 4 weeks of round robins and then a week for the championship.



Posted on 2012-10-25.

Goldentrader commented:

I like the idea of 54F. I believe to step by step growing so I think better is a 108 players for the next tournament. Finally, I think a championship match of a best of three will be an excellent finish.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

ZeeJr commented:

Just wanted to log in to say that I agree with everything under the "What's Next" heading.

I would prefer to see the 162-competitor format to the 108 format with two separate divisions that don't mingle until the finale. One option might be to have one finale game with the top two finishers in the final pool. Even though they'll have already played each other in that pool, calling it the championship game when there are only two players left will be exciting.

And thanks again for the momentous work you must have put into this tournament. Even though I didn't make it past my first pool, I had a ton of fun, and I feel like I sharpened my game significantly.

Posted on 2012-10-25.

thenobleknave commented:

Major thanks to Joe for running this beast and congrats to Acidveins on his win!

I, of course, am in favor of 54F, but that's because it's how I run my game anyway and I'd love to see more of the "unloved" ones and less of the big 3.

I'd guess there's enough interest to make 108 or even 162, beyond that I'm not sure but it'll be interesting. You should consider asking Playdek to run a quick one-time survey through the app when people log on. Great way to reach the fanbase quickly :D

Posted on 2012-10-25.

Ranior commented:

Congrats to the champion!

Thanks a ton to joe for running this tournament. Thanks to Colby for letting it happen and supporting it. Thanks to the iOS team for everything you've done, including giving the discount at the start of the tournament.

Thanks again to joe, for making this happen, coming up with the truly ingenious format, and just staying on top of it. You did really well to make sure constant and correct updates were happening, on time.

Thanks to all the competitors--you were on top of your game,s making sure they happened, not complaining, doing what you were supposed to, and making sure it all happened. That was really cool. From our time on the boards running Vassal tournaments, this went 10x smoother than anything we've seen before in online tournaments. I think that's really cool.


As to future tournaments though, first off on the format and size. The number of competitors worked really well, but I think it was clear there was quite a bit more interest..

Posted on 2012-10-25.

Winin commented:

Thanks for organizing the tournament! I achieved my goals of 1) having fun, 2) not embarrassing myself, and 3) finding new opponents for my list. :)

Posted on 2012-10-26.

TKMatCauthon commented:

It sounds like you're going to need some software to help with running these tournaments. Otherwise updating the brackets is going to be a nightmare. I would be interested in helping out with that.

Posted on 2012-10-30.

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