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Thread: "New" Hogar and Ret (w/Second Summoner Units)

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    Yeah that's a power build, for sure will work but looks really boring!

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    I guess the problem for me with Hogar is that there are so many good units. Here are a bunch of different concepts. I've bolded ones that I think are good, and italicized one's I think are fun.

    Power and reliability
    - Oath Sworn, Rune Smith, Ice Golem
    - Krung, Baldar, Gror

    Terror
    - 5 Invader, 6 Crusher, 3 Ice Golem
    - Gror (hello Gror bomb), Rukar, Raldag

    Ice
    - Invader, Shooter, Ice Golem, Thwarter
    - Grok, Baldar, Ulfric

    Ice Fortress (maybe fun in a turtly way)
    - Architect, Ice Golem, Assault Tower, Rune Smith
    - Vognar, Baldar, Etch

    Efficient, cheap, pretty straightforward
    - 6 Shaman, 4 Rune Smith, 2 Ice Golem, 2 Architect
    - Baldar, Rukar, Gror

    "Invisible" synergy
    - 3 Thwarter, 3 Smasher, 3 Oath Sworn, 2 IG, 3 Rune Smith
    - Baldar, Gror, Ugg
    - Note: Baldar/Thwarter force low cost and AV which is what Smashers, Ugg, and Gror are good at; Smashers, Ugg, and Gror force champs and/or commons with higher AV which is what Baldar and Thwarters are good at. Oath Sworn can be good counter to either Units summoned to counter Smasher or Units to counter Thwarters.

    The problem I find with Hogar is his fun builds don't really seem to be his good builds. A separate issue for me is in regards to the Rune Smith is: which role is better for it: (1) in support of another common, placing him more in the background of the action; or (2) placing rune on top of Rune Smith, and using him in the action.
    Last edited by commandercool; 09-07-2016 at 01:59 PM.

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    Just played:
    - Scribe, Ice Golem, Rune Smith
    - Blagog, Ugg, Baldar

    And it was a blast! Felt quite strong. Rolled Natazga, though she has a tough matchup. Blagog has to be the best target for Rune of Power. Landed 8 hits against a wall with him. Gror/Krung are great, too, but I wanted to be able to recycle all my Runes, and Preserve isn't viable with Gror and unreliable with Krung. Didn't get to use Preserve a single time. Used 2 RS to throw 4 AV range to help seal the deal, though.

    Would play a variation of that build.
    - Scribe, IG, 5 Invader
    - Mingle, Blagog, Baldar
    Last edited by commandercool; 09-08-2016 at 01:13 AM.

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    PRESERVE only works on Commons anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by commandercool View Post
    Would play a variation of that build.
    - Scribe, IG, 5 Invader
    - Mingle, Blagog, Baldar
    In that build I would probably toss Scribes for some other common. They only really shine with Rune Smiths in my opinion

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    @KC: Thanks, missed that

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