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Clarissimus
05-05-2011, 07:10 PM
LATEST UPDATE:
9/26 You can now mouse over any unit name (either on the rankings page or when editing your personal ratings) to see a picture of the card in question. Standard deviation was added to the table next to GPA. You can see the Top Ten units from the homepage and sort the Rankings page by unit name, GPA, or standard deviation (the faction, class, name sort is still the default), and any combination of those criteria can be bookmarked. Also I added a nice background texture, that plain white screen was getting hard to look at :o

www.swpowerrankings.com

You don't have to register to view the cumulative results but you do have to register* to input your votes. The advantage of this is that if you change your mind about a unit you can change your vote later on.

I'm not doing anything like checking IPs so we're pretty much on the honor system that no one is going to be a jerk and create 25 accounts just to bump up the rating of his favorite unit.

Feedback is welcome, just keep in mind that I'm a web design newbie and I spent most of the time wrangling with the PHP, SQL, and JavaScript behind the scenes.

*IMPORTANT NOTE: I have almost no security measures whatsoever. Please don't use a password that you use anywhere else.

Marroking1
05-05-2011, 07:39 PM
I put in my input. How do you get to see others Results. Or are you working on that.

All and all it looks Good but Bare but sometimes Simple is better. Good Job.

Clarissimus
05-05-2011, 07:50 PM
How do you get to see others Results. Or are you working on that.

Click on "View Current Rankings" from the homepage.

IkimashoZ
05-06-2011, 01:36 AM
Hi Clarissimus,

Really cool idea! I like the concept.

It's not terribly difficult to add basic password security for passwords you will store in a MySQL database. Here's some example code that you may find helpful:

should be available everywhere:
define('MY_SALT', 'somerandomstringoflettersandnumbers0123456789');

on registration:
$username = '';
if (isset($_REQUEST['username']) {
$username = $_REQUEST['username'];
}

$password = '';
if (isset($_REQUEST['password']) {
$password = $_REQUEST['password'];
}

$encryptedPassword = crypt($password, MY_SALT);
$mysqlDatabase->executeQuery('INSERT INTO users (username, password) VALUES ("'.$username.'", "'.$encryptedPassword.'")');

on login:
$username = '';
if (isset($_REQUEST['username']) {
$username = $_REQUEST['username'];
}

$password = '';
if (isset($_REQUEST['password']) {
$password = $_REQUEST['password'];
}

$encryptedPassword = $mysqlDatabase->executeQuery('SELECT password FROM users WHERE username = "'.$username.'"');

if (crypt($password, MY_SALT) == $encryptedPassword) {
... log user in ...
} else {
... display to user that login failed ...
}

Some other things to think about if you try to implement this:
1) What do you do if a user tries to create an account with the same username as another user who already has an account?
2) How should you handle the situation where a user enters no name or no password?

Also, it's helpful for many people if you use <input type="password"> for password text fields.

I'd be happy to field questions about PHP or MySQL. You can respond here or PM me.

Clarissimus
05-06-2011, 04:32 AM
Okay, I've got all the commons for all current factions up (including reinforcements & mercenaries). I think I'll have time to do the heroes tomorrow.


IkimashoZ, thanks for the PHP/MySQL help! I'll look into that security stuff and I'll be sure to shoot you a PM if I get stuck in the future.


Some other things to think about if you try to implement this:
1) What do you do if a user tries to create an account with the same username as another user who already has an account?
2) How should you handle the situation where a user enters no name or no password?

#1 I already took care of.

EDIT: #2 just patched, entering a blank username no longer incorrectly shows a successful login message.


Also, it's helpful for many people if you use <input type="password"> for password text fields.


I have mixed feelings about this one because I dislike being unable to see what I put in my password field. Did I use the completely wrong password or did I just make a typo? Hard to say.

Now I usually don't use computers in public places so I can see why other people might feel differently.

PePe QuiCoSE
05-06-2011, 08:25 AM
Good post IkimashoZ :). Needless to say, great initiative Clarissimus!

You could do tables in the rankings so as to have all the results aligned and easier to read. And do the password field please, it has built in browser security, the custom is that if you want to read what you type you first type it in a different place (ie, notepad) and then copy paste it. edit: also you have the remember password thingy.

edit: you might want to go a bit easier on the color background to make it easier to read. Or change the letter color to something it contrast with it, for example the TO and PE are a bit tough on the eyes.
Also i found it a bit funny that the rankings is a bit misleadings for common, there are commons you build a lot and still are awesome when you play them. Well, the FK units are not that great but i always build them almost no matter what, but that it's not representative.

Killer Lawnmower
05-06-2011, 04:33 PM
Very cool. I just created an account and put a bunch of my rankings on there. I didn't put Cloaks or Jungle Elves because I dont think I've used them enough.

Clarissimus
05-06-2011, 10:26 PM
Just finished adding voting and viewing for all the champions. So every SW unit currently available is now present.

KCU Master 2007
05-06-2011, 11:51 PM
Awesome, just put in my own rankings. seemed to be in the standard view for the most part.

Sauam
05-07-2011, 08:29 AM
This is sweet, I just voted on unit that I played and played well enough to know, I suggest everyone only vote when they truly understand the unit (or at least go back to re-vote)

Here is my suggestion so far: For the ranking of C. I believe it should read "I use this unit half the time and build it the other half" or "This unit is used according to the current gameplay and are average on the battlefield", instead of the current wording which make it seem to sound like a D ranking, especially with the wording of "I usually build it". If C is the middle rank, it should reflect that... I just think as the wording as of now, lot of voter are voting B as their "middle" rank

Anyways, this is great stuff, I like knowing what people think of each unit and perhaps make me reconsider the way how I see each unit

edit: also perhaps rank B should also read "This unit is pretty good, I usually save this unit in hand and once play it usually are affective on the battlefield"

edit #2: I know this come without saying... but I just feel the description on each ranking is not really right... it should focus on how each unit affect the gameplay rather then "do I build" or "how often I build/not-build such unit" as FK's unit such as Reaper is a B to me but as per the description it is a rank C because I never raw cast it... This is also true on Cloak's common as they often gets build but you want at least one of each common on the battlefield

edit #3 (my bad...): Rank F sound little too harsh as I dont believe no unit are never use, but rather how affective when played... as I feel lot more unit should fall along the rank D and F but as per wording now, no one is voting unit as rank F except Vg's Raechel. There is too many rank B right now I feel, many unit really dont deserve that rank

Dromar
05-08-2011, 02:10 AM
I put in my votes and checked the ratings.

Gror and Mook unsurprisingly taking top ratings.

Kaiser Cat
05-09-2011, 04:30 PM
So the two worst champs in the game are both rolling 1 die per turn with no way to boost that number. Interesting correlation.

Sauam
05-09-2011, 10:34 PM
I put in my votes and checked the ratings.

Gror and Mook unsurprisingly taking top ratings.

...and it bother me how my girl Holly not among the top tier bracket along side with Gror and Mook :mad:

Killer Lawnmower
05-10-2011, 07:50 AM
So the two worst champs in the game are both rolling 1 die per turn with no way to boost that number. Interesting correlation.

Unless you count a SotP...:cool:

It at least takes away the chance of missing, but true. That could be a good reason why they arent great.

killercactus
05-13-2011, 10:34 AM
Thoughts on the current rankings (5/13/11):

There are a lot of units that I feel are a bit underrated. The ones that stand out the most are Krung, Scagg and Reapers. I think Miti Mumway, even at 3.42, is underrated as well.

There are only a couple I think are overrated. I really don't care for the 2-cost GD commons, so I think they're a bit too high at about 2.7. Elut-Bal is also a bit high I think at a little over 3. I know he has 4 attack and can come out fast, but he's melee and that 5 life hurts, not to mention it's tough to heal him with Dark Sacrifice after he kills his own guys to come down. Shikwa, Rukar and Violet are also champions that I think are good, but not as good as they're graded.

Overall though, this is a great resource!

Jexik
05-13-2011, 10:44 AM
The one that surprises me the most is Scam. He is much better than Dagger, and probably better than Violet. It's kind of absurd to me that anyone would give him a D.

Ranior
05-13-2011, 11:53 AM
There is quite a bit that I find interesting, so instead I'll just focus on the JE ones which are the ones that stick out the most to me:

Shikaw is over rated here in my mind. As I've said recently Ru is a much better choice I feel. Either way I think Shikwa should probably be right around a 2-2.5.

But the one that really shocks me is the Archers. There's just no love for them. I mean I'd agree they're only a B unit, but they're averaging out at a 2 or something. I have made great use of the JE archers recently--they're actually quite useful. Certainly not a 2.

Elcor13
05-13-2011, 01:34 PM
Ok, as of right now, the three highest champions are:

Gror - 3.95
Mook - 3.67
Kalon - 3.48
Honorable Mention: Miti Mumway 3.47

I'm honestly a little surprised that Gror is that high. There's no debate that he's good, but that's a lot higher than I expected...And whoever gave Mook an F, shame on you :P

The three lowest are:

Rahlee - 0.38
Raechel - 0.7
Gruggar - 1.29
Honorable Mention: Kaeseeall - 1.63

Not surprised on the first three, but I am a little surprised that Kaeseeall is so low. Not sure she isn't closer to 2.0ish.


Top 3 Commons:
Defenders - 3.86
PE Warriors - 3.59
CG Fighters - 3.36
Honorable Mention: Lioneer - 3.31

No surprises here, except maybe the Lioneer. I don't really feel that its the 4th best common in the game...but who knows.

Bottom 3 Commons:
Guardians - 1.5
Reaper - 1.55
Engineer - 1.59
Honorable Mentions: Charger - 1.83
Climber - 1.84

I can't believe Engineers are so low...they are no where close to the 3rd worse common in the game. Certainly not worse than the Climber :-/

But yeah, for the most part they seem relatively accurate rankings by people. Not perfect by any means, but still good!

Sauam
05-13-2011, 01:50 PM
I really feel the description of each rank has a lot to do with the ranking... :( (I notice it is edited now but I feel at the beginning many player might rank unit wrong base on wording)

Reaper should no where be THAT low, in fact reaper is a life saver!

Scam is the best CL champ, bar none! Sham on those who thinks otherwise! Both him and Vlox tag team will win you games I assure you that... if anything, Voilet is the worst because she will never be able to withstand counter hit with her low life and no ability to run away

Kaeseeall is also ranked wonky... she is rather useful and good... the same is true for Scagg since their ability are similar. Scagg is pretty undercosted and he is the only ranged Champ CG got

r0gershrubber
07-19-2011, 01:01 PM
So when can we expect the new factions to be added?


Ok, as of right now, the three highest champions are:

Gror - 3.95
Mook - 3.67
Kalon - 3.48
Honorable Mention: Miti Mumway 3.47



I think this would be spot on if there wasn't an F dragging Mook's score down.



The three lowest are:

Rahlee - 0.38
Raechel - 0.7
Gruggar - 1.29
Honorable Mention: Kaeseeall - 1.63



I actually don't think Gruggar is quite that bad, probably more in line with Kaeseeall. The only way to use him is with a wave of other strong commons summoned from forward wall. Send Gruggar with some Reinforced Smashers or Chargers. Put your opponent in a position where he can't KO Gruggar in one turn and is forced to pump his attack dice. He's definitely not great, but he's in a different league than R&R.



Top 3 Commons:
Defenders - 3.86
PE Warriors - 3.59
CG Fighters - 3.36
Honorable Mention: Lioneer - 3.31



Another fairly accurate assessment from the community. I have to agree with the Lioneer, which has great power even off the board in forcing your opponent to block lanes to their summoner.




Bottom 3 Commons:
Guardians - 1.5
Reaper - 1.55
Engineer - 1.59
Honorable Mentions: Charger - 1.83
Climber - 1.84



While I agree with the Guardian, Engineer*, and Climber, I can't agree with the Reaper or Charger for the bottom of the barrel. The Reaper is only a viable unit in small quantities in the FK deck, to be summoned only when Ret needs a wall. It's not hard to avoid Soul Harvest if you're not fielding many Reapers. The Chargers are also only viable in a particular type of TO deck (aggressively summoning from forward walls in waves to overwhelm your opponent's summoner) and even then only viable thanks to Reinforcements. They're still poor, but not useless.

*I'll take Spearmen over Engineers any day. The Spearman gets 1 less die against walls in exchange for 2 dice in melee and 1 at range. I think they're top-five common material.

Clarissimus
07-26-2011, 08:25 PM
New factions will be added soon. I'm presently working on updating some other things on the site to make it bigger and betterrer. And to that end it's going to be shut down for the next few days until I get everything changed over.

Thanks for your patience.

Sauam
07-26-2011, 10:06 PM
*I'll take Spearmen over Engineers any day. The Spearman gets 1 less die against walls in exchange for 2 dice in melee and 1 at range. I think they're top-five common material.

Hmm... Engineer is little underrated, tossing 3 dice over tossing 2 means quite a bit in a long run or even just for two turns. Of course this is in wall focus build.

Granted that Spearmen also get 1 extra die with unit and its range... if you are mainly going for a wall, nothing get a wall down faster than running Engineer choking a wall, than with some defender on it's side protecting him... in just 2-3 turns, their wall is dead. Meanwhile those side defender are protecting and counter attacking whatever your enemy tossing at them in desperation.

Ballista is great but they are much slower than one thinks, they cost more, they need a turn or so to position right... in wall strag, things need to be fast so your enemy cannot catch-up or counter it.

Clarissimus
07-29-2011, 01:45 AM
Okay, the site is back online. You'll notice that in the new format the rankings are all displayed in one big table, and you can view and edit your own ratings on the same page (which is also one big table).

I am adding the new units and factions as we speak so by the time you read this they will probably be ready for your input.

Next priority will be to allow for you to choose which units and/or factions you want to view at once (things like all of one faction, all champions, two factions head-to-head, and so forth). And maybe I will add a little color to help distinguish among them.

Clarissimus
07-29-2011, 01:56 PM
If anyone has forgotten their password just send me a PM and we can straighten it out.

esper88
08-09-2011, 02:42 PM
The power rankings website has been updated with the Master Set/Reinforcement factions.

Now's our chance to pass judgment on all the new cards we've been playing with for roughly a month.

Kaiser Cat
08-13-2011, 02:06 PM
The power rankings website has been updated with the Master Set/Reinforcement factions.

Now's our chance to pass judgment on all the new cards we've been playing with for roughly a month.
MOST of you guys have been playing with them...:(

Also SE swordsmen are apparently the best best unit in the game ever.

Goblin King
08-13-2011, 02:37 PM
Why do you say that Kaiser Cat?

Elcor13
08-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Why do you say that Kaiser Cat?

Because they have the highest ranking right now. 7 A's. I kind of want to give them a B or C just because I can, even though I think they're the best unit the SE have.

When people give Mook a D or Silts a C though I lose faith in these rankings -_-

esper88
08-13-2011, 04:33 PM
I gave Silts the C. I fail to see what all the buzz is about. I realize that I'm probably playing him terribly wrong, but at the moment he's been rather lackluster for me.

It also took me a long while to warm up to Mook (too expensive for CG), but now I realize his power. The good thing about these rankings are that we can adjust our views later.

Sauam
08-14-2011, 03:19 PM
I just finish ranking/re-ranking all the units

I hope the person who rank Scam as rank-F change his/her ranking, it's totally killing Scam's reputation lolz

darkbladecb
08-15-2011, 02:24 PM
I gave Silts the C. I fail to see what all the buzz is about. I realize that I'm probably playing him terribly wrong, but at the moment he's been rather lackluster for me.

It also took me a long while to warm up to Mook (too expensive for CG), but now I realize his power. The good thing about these rankings are that we can adjust our views later.

What else were you spending Magic on? :eek:

And I've 100% confidence that you'll be updating your rating of Silts. Silts could cost 8 and I'd still play him every game. I am pretty sure that I made at least one sale at GenCon by telling the guy to play Silts and showing him all the crazy stuff he can do.

Tisroero
08-15-2011, 03:16 PM
I gave Silts the C. I fail to see what all the buzz is about.

No amount of "what the hell"s could ever be sufficient.

Sauam
08-15-2011, 05:42 PM
Silt deserve nothing lower than B rank, even B is pushing it.

Don't look at his 2av, instead look at his ability and truly imagine the thing you can do with it, his ability practically say; Silt go to any space he wants, he cannot be block, he move friendly/enemy unit to wherever he wants, he cannot be stop by movement negation, he basically move 3 space ala Swordmen, he also kind of give you an extra movement ala JE Lioness... etc

Silt can be a 0av unit and I'll still play him for his Cunning, the 2av is icing man.

r0gershrubber
08-15-2011, 10:20 PM
Silt deserve nothing lower than B rank, even B is pushing it.

Don't look at his 2av, instead look at his ability and truly imagine the thing you can do with it, his ability practically say; Silt go to any space he wants, he cannot be block, he move friendly/enemy unit to wherever he wants, he cannot be stop by movement negation, he basically move 3 space ala Swordmen, he also kind of give you an extra movement ala JE Lioness... etc

Silt can be a 0av unit and I'll still play him for his Cunning, the 2av is icing man.

Don't forget he can use his ability at any point during the turn. Basically the only thing that negates Silts is JE Chant of Negation. He is pretty spectacular, especially for the SG with their other two champions. After some more plays, I think he is as good as Kalon and may even be in the same class as Gror and Mook.

esper88
08-16-2011, 12:40 AM
What else were you spending Magic on? :eek:

And I've 100% confidence that you'll be updating your rating of Silts. Silts could cost 8 and I'd still play him every game. I am pretty sure that I made at least one sale at GenCon by telling the guy to play Silts and showing him all the crazy stuff he can do.

Me and the CG have have a long and arduous relationship that continues to this day. Basically, back in the day I always struggled to get Mook out, and when I did get him out my swarm had died down so much his power was a non-issue. The CG are my ultimate love/hate relationship in Summoner Wars.

Just because public opinion of Silts is so stellar I know I'll be figuring out he's amazing sooner or later. Could I have a little help, though? So far I've used him to switch in another SG to attack while hiding in the choke-point of a wall. No other use has really seemed too practical up to this point.

But please, enlighten me.

Elcor13
08-16-2011, 01:00 AM
Me and the CG have have a long and arduous relationship that continues to this day. Basically, back in the day I always struggled to get Mook out, and when I did get him out my swarm had died down so much his power was a non-issue. The CG are my ultimate love/hate relationship in Summoner Wars.

Just because public opinion of Silts is so stellar I know I'll be figuring out he's amazing sooner or later. Could I have a little help, though? So far I've used him to switch in another SG to attack while hiding in the choke-point of a wall. No other use has really seemed too practical up to this point.

But please, enlighten me.

One thing that really takes advantage of his ability is to isolate an enemy champion. Say Maelena or whoever is too far away for anyone but Silts to hit. If you have your people in the right position, you can switch places with her so that she gets hit by Silts, Biter, and Krusk. I used Silts just the other day to get two shamans and Silts on Lun to take him out real early.

Another way is to use Silts' ability either to protect Silts or to protect your summoner. Say you want Krusk to take a pot shot at a common or champ or something. If Silts is beside either the common or Krusk, Krusk can take a shot and then Silts can use his ability to save Krusk from any counter attack.

The last way is just to disrupt enemy formations. It may be worth sacrificing Silts, for instance, to get Kalon away from Sera and into the open. Or Oldin away from a wall, or what not. Using Silts to jump in and out of enemies can make it really hard for some summoners to stay alive (like Ret-Talus or Tacullu.)

Silts can be hard to use, but once you start seeing all that he can do its really fun to screw up your opponent using him and Taunt :D

Jormi_Boced
08-16-2011, 11:02 AM
Silts has the best ability in the game I think.

Elcor13
08-16-2011, 01:52 PM
Silts has the best ability in the game I think.

If it's not the best it's certainly up there. He's def my favorite champion, and considering how big of an impact he has with just "average" stats def says something about his ability.

Once we get more input I (or if someone else wants to do it they are more than welcome to) will put up the top and bottom champions like I did before. I think right now Silts, Sorgwen, and Kynder are at the top for champs and Gem Mages and SG Shamans are at the top for commons, but I don't remember any others off the top of my head.

Jormi_Boced
08-16-2011, 02:01 PM
I went 3-1 with the sand goblins at Gen Con and it was a large part thanks to silts as well as other trickiness like taunt and mirage. Clarissimus beat me with his guild dwarves, but there were a couple of botched key rolls that would have swung the game the other way.

Sauam
08-16-2011, 06:37 PM
... I think right now Silts, Sorgwen, and Kynder are at the top for champs and Gem Mages and SG Shamans are at the top for commons, but I don't remember any others off the top of my head.

Another top common is swordsman, no surprise on that one thou :cool:

Silts's ability is surely the top 3 ability in the game AND fun too... I can't say if its the number 1 ability yet thou, got to think about that one (I really like Krusk's Sandstorm too, as people already can tell from how I vouch for it haha)

Clarissimus
08-16-2011, 07:19 PM
I went 3-1 with the sand goblins at Gen Con and it was a large part thanks to silts as well as other trickiness like taunt and mirage. Clarissimus beat me with his guild dwarves, but there were a couple of botched key rolls that would have swung the game the other way.

Basically Jormi is saying in a nice way that his crappy dice luck threw the game to me. :p I didn't really deserve to win but fwiw the next game I lost when the dice went against me.

Also it's worth noting that Jormi didn't manage to get Silts out in the game where I beat him, which probably made a bigger difference than mere dice throws.

Jormi_Boced
08-16-2011, 09:18 PM
Basically Jormi is saying in a nice way that his crappy dice luck threw the game to me. :p I didn't really deserve to win but fwiw the next game I lost when the dice went against me.

Also it's worth noting that Jormi didn't manage to get Silts out in the game where I beat him, which probably made a bigger difference than mere dice throws.

Yeah, Silts was my bottom card, which certainly didn't help matters:)

I really did think Sand Goblins were going to be a tourney winning deck with so many Guild Dwarves about I thought they had the best tools for the job and I did beat the other Guild Dwarf deck I played.

Clarissimus
08-16-2011, 10:32 PM
Yeah, Silts was my bottom card, which certainly didn't help matters:).

Too bad the Sand Goblins don't get A Hero is Born, one of the most underrated cards in the game.

Jormi_Boced
08-16-2011, 10:37 PM
Too bad the Sand Goblins don't get A Hero is Born, one of the most underrated cards in the game.

Ha! I would trade a Shiny Stuff for it:)

Clarissimus
09-26-2011, 02:44 AM
New update -- you can now mouse over the names of the units (both on the rankings page and on your personal ratings page) to see a picture of that unit.

Which is good for me, because I can never remember which sounds-like-mud champion is which.

EDIT: Also added ability to sort by faction or unit name and ability to view commons and/or champions. And a Top Ten picture list on the main list. Other updates to follow. . . I'm in the white-heat of creation.

EDIT2: Okay, I've reached a stopping point. Presently you can, from the home page, sort the Rankings Page by GPA or by standard deviation, a stat I also added to the table.

Sauam
09-26-2011, 05:46 PM
New update -- you can now mouse over the names of the units (both on the rankings page and on your personal ratings page) to see a picture of that unit.

Which is good for me, because I can never remember which sounds-like-mud champion is which.

EDIT: Also added ability to sort by faction or unit name and ability to view commons and/or champions. And a Top Ten picture list on the main list. Other updates to follow. . . I'm in the white-heat of creation.

EDIT2: Okay, I've reached a stopping point. Presently you can, from the home page, sort the Rankings Page by GPA or by standard deviation, a stat I also added to the table.

Very very nice, if there was rep point, I would gave you a tons for your hard work. It's all in the detail man, you changed the color and font to match every faction (actually not all yet but very close)

Kudos to you my friend, it is very useful to see what everyone thinks about their units... I still will hate the person who rank Scam as E, wtf is wrong with you son?


edit: speaking of color, Cloak I think should be brown? as of now it is MV's color... DD font should be pale green or something other than white? Nice work again, I like the overall finish of the site. For those who haven't check, check it out, it has graphics and all the jazz now

Kaiser Cat
10-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Could we get some events and/or summoners in this?

Clarissimus
10-05-2011, 07:46 PM
I would eventually like to get summoners on the site, but probably on a different page than the other units.

Events I'm not so sure. It's not as if you can change them when you are deck building.

Shockma Ranyk
10-05-2011, 08:22 PM
I would eventually like to get summoners on the site, but probably on a different page than the other units.

Events I'm not so sure. It's not as if you can change them when you are deck building.

But it would be nice to see what the general consensus of the community is on the competitiveness of each. I just crunched the numbers to find the power ranking of each faction (averaging every one of their units) but I feel its very misleading without event stats. Here is the complete list:

Sand Goblins
3.07

Mountain Vargath
3.01

Swamp Orcs
3

Jungle Elves
2.84

Deep Dwarves
2.82

Benders
2.78

Guild Dwarves
2.76

Shadow Elves
2.74

Cloaks
2.74

Cave Goblins
2.62

Fallen Kingdom
2.59

Tundra Orcs
2.58

Vanguards
2.53

Phoenix Elves
2.52

Some rankings are also brought down by outliers, (without calculating in Rahlee, the PE's ranking would be about on par with the Guild Dwarves) but I think lack of events is even more misleading. Sand Goblins and maybe Jungle Elves would be brought down by their events, and Tundra Orcs, Fallen Kingdom, Guild Dwarves, and Cave Goblins would probably skyrocket. An interesting thing to think about.

Thing 2
10-05-2011, 08:59 PM
I think that the best way to add this would be to have the Summoner and its set of events as one card, because there are no deck-building implications if you do it with events separate and I don't feel that the Summoner's card is indicative of its power

Kaiser Cat
10-05-2011, 09:58 PM
One more thing: Could you maybe add a "Home" button on the pages where you view the full rankings?

Shockma Ranyk
10-05-2011, 10:47 PM
I think that the best way to add this would be to have the Summoner and its set of events as one card, because there are no deck-building implications if you do it with events separate and I don't feel that the Summoner's card is indicative of its power

Yes, this would be the way to do it.

Kaiser Cat
12-02-2011, 03:03 PM
You know, I try to respect the opinions of other people and the fact that they can differ from my own, but I don't see how Gror could suddenly get 6 "F" votes out of nowhere unless someone is trolling.

joepinion
12-02-2011, 03:20 PM
Oh man WTF.

Dustin
12-02-2011, 04:28 PM
That's terrible. Yeah I was surprised Gror wasn't up top

Shockma Ranyk
12-02-2011, 08:09 PM
You know, I try to respect the opinions of other people and the fact that they can differ from my own, but I don't see how Gror could suddenly get 6 "F" votes out of nowhere unless someone is trolling.

Other units with spontaneous "F" ratings:

Mook (3 Fs)
Defender (3 Fs)
PE Warrior (1 F)
Gem Mage (1 F)
SE Swordsman (3 Fs)
SG Shaman (3 Fs)
Hydrake (3 Fs)

Is there any way Clarissimus can remove those votes? It's obviously a troll, like Kaiser Cat pointed out.

thenightsshadow
12-02-2011, 08:45 PM
I think the easiest thing to do is find out which users are putting which votes on the Units. If the Fs are all coming from the same user, then it's obviously a troll.

Shockma Ranyk
12-02-2011, 11:51 PM
I think the easiest thing to do is find out which users are putting which votes on the Units. If the Fs are all coming from the same user, then it's obviously a troll.

It could be the same user using multiple accounts to give units multiple F grades.

Clarissimus
12-03-2011, 12:16 AM
Probably just someone being a jerk, if one weirdo wants to give Gror an F that is that but if it turns out someone made multiple accounts just to distort the rankings I can clear them out.

I suppose it was inevitable that such a thing would come to pass, looks like I maybe need to start checking IPs, put in one of those capcha things, etc. Ugh.

EDIT: Okay, I took care of it. Yes, it was one guy who had made multiple accounts to give the Fire Drake an A and other top units Fs. So after I cleaned out his sock puppets I decided to temporarily disable the addition of new users. This weekend when I have more time I am going to research some methods of controlling this. Probably I will just ban his IP but more elaborate precautions may have to be taken in the future.

Thanks to the KC and the rest of the community for noticing this and bringing it to my attention.

PePe QuiCoSE
12-03-2011, 09:04 AM
EDIT: Okay, I took care of it. Yes, it was one guy who had made multiple accounts to give the Fire Drake an A and other top units Fs.Of course! Only a wretched Elf lover would be capable of such travesty!

r0gershrubber
01-09-2012, 04:24 PM
I hadn't been to the power ranking site in a while, but I have to say it looks really great now. Good work Clarissimus!

Clarissimus
02-27-2012, 11:16 PM
Added the new stuff. The pics are still lower quality but nobody has sent me high-res scans yet so the placeholders will be fine.

I would request that you get in a few plays before ranking the new stuff but I can't exactly enforce that so it'll be up to you. I suppose it's okay to give the new units some preliminary ratings but don't forget to change them after a few plays if you discover your first impressions were inaccurate.

I considered making another category for Mutations (besides Commons and Champions) but in the end decided to call them Commons because all the common-based rules apply to them.

Note that in order for a new unit to show up on the Front Page it will have to be ranked at least ten times. That means 9 more times after me ;-)

Also added a Bottom Ten to the front page. I'm thinking about adding a front page top ten for highest standard deviation in the rankings, maybe calling it Ten Most Controversial or something like that.

Finally, no, I'm still not done with a deckbuilder utility for Vassal, but I think it will be ready in another week or so.

thenightsshadow
02-28-2012, 12:10 AM
8 more now.

PePe QuiCoSE
02-28-2012, 07:57 AM
again, for a lack of thumb, like or gold, awesome job clar!

killercactus
02-28-2012, 08:46 AM
I added my rankings. The Bender reinforcements aren't up yet, or I might have A'ed up Mind Witches.

Notables - I gave Melek, Hunters, Hulgorad, Horror Mutant and Claw Mutant A's. Hulgorad is the only one I feel like I might bump down. I love all of the others.

Clarissimus
02-28-2012, 09:30 AM
Oops, somehow the Benders got left out. That has been corrected.

And I must say, it felt weird to give separate entries for Kalu and Talu. I wonder how long it will be before some silly person gives them different grades, or ranks one and not the other?

Shockma Ranyk
03-24-2012, 01:19 PM
This is what I get when I click "view or edit your ratings".

Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/iosefvs/public_html/Setratings.php on line 82

Clarissimus
03-31-2012, 08:52 AM
Sorry about the site problems. I was in the middle of some changes and adding new functionality then I got busy and couldn't finish. I will have this working again as soon as I can.

Shockma Ranyk
04-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Not to be pushy, I'm sorry if I come off that way, but I'm still having this issue, have you worked on it?

Clarissimus
04-13-2012, 12:29 AM
Okay it should be fixed now.

Shockma Ranyk
04-19-2012, 05:32 PM
It appears as if we have another troll on the site. Gror, Defender, Swordsman, Silts, SG Shaman, among others have F ratings. Maybe its just a Mook fanboy who's a sore loser from Blagog Blog champion battle.

EDIT: CG Fighter, Melek, and GD Spearman all have spontaneous F ratings as well. Many in between those have a solitary D rating, I wonder if that could be the same person?

Clarissimus
04-20-2012, 10:45 AM
What is the deal with people who make multiple accounts to mess with the rankings? Do they really think that's justified? Probably the same people who grow up to vote multiple times in a political election.

Anyway, that jerk and his bogus ratings have been deleted.

Shockma Ranyk
04-25-2012, 05:59 PM
What is the deal with people who make multiple accounts to mess with the rankings? Do they really think that's justified? Probably the same people who grow up to vote multiple times in a political election.

Anyway, that jerk and his bogus ratings have been deleted.

Uh, I think he's back...

thenightsshadow
04-25-2012, 07:43 PM
Any way to add a Captcha to making accounts?

Shockma Ranyk
04-28-2012, 03:24 PM
Any way to add a Captcha to making accounts?

Would that help if its just an obnoxious user?

Shockma Ranyk
05-13-2012, 10:18 PM
Bump. This bugs me to no end, could we please get it figured out?